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|Description||Phish - 11/19/1992|
Ross Sports Center - Colchester, VT
02 Fee >
05 Split Open and Melt
07 Divided Sky
10 The Horse %
11 % Silent in the Morning
01 Run Like An Antelope
02 Mike's Song ->
03 I Am Hydrogen ->
04 Weekapaug Groove
01 Bouncin' Around the Room
02 It's Ice
03 I Walk The Line
04 Tweezer -> Big Ball Jam
05 Poor Heart ^
06 Fast Enough For You ^
07 Llama ^
08 Lengthwise -> HYHU
10 Bold As Love
% Cut/Tape Flip
^ w/ Gordon Stone on pedal steel guitar
Source: SBD > C1 > Dat
Xfer: Archive Python->vDat->WaveLab4->CDWave->Flac
This is a new transfer of http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=27589
48khz flacs of the source DAT are archived. Let me know if you'd like them.
|Last seeder||Last activity 17:59 ago|
|Size||990.06 MB (1038156880 Bytes)|
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|ok... let's try this again. If you started downloading the fileset I put up last night, delete the txt file and d1t10 and d1t12. Everything else should match up. d1t10 (The Horse) contained 45 seconds of nothing where the original tape flip occurred. d1t12 was named incorrectly and should have been labeled d1t11 from the start. Not sure why I didn't get this all right in 9/2005 when I did the original retransfer, but that's where the mix-up was yesterday.
Beyond that, this should be OK. As I said in my attempt to seed this yesterday, I could have swarn this one or the next night was Marmarized and seeded, but if it was, I don't have a copy and it was never uploaded to the DB, so this is all I can offer. The only thing done to this fileset was a transfer, deletion of silence where a tape flip occurred, a resample with WaveLab 4 and eventually tracking in CDWave. Whatever volume changes I felt the need to do in 11/2004 for the original nasty sounding version didn't strike me as necessary this go around.
I can't comment on what the problems were with the original fileset. I'm pretty sure 11/20/92 was a 44.1 khz DAT, so I'm not so sure resampling is the culprit since that one suffers from the same kind of noise and resampling wouldn't have been necessary. Also - these are definately not MP3 sourced (tell that to the 48khz PCM wavs of this show that I've tucked away). All I can say, is I did the original transfers at work in a computer lab environment. All the fans, AC, RF noise, etc in that place made it a less-than-ideal place to be listening to music and the noise apparently escaped me. Fortunately, you guys set me straight before I let too many more goodies get out from that transfer chain.
Anyway, 3rd time is a charm.
A sample pf Glide is at http://www.ontheflyrecording.com/samples/ph1992-11-19d1t04.mp3
|I do seem to remember re-mastering, or even mastering a copy you had sent direct from DAT.......
I'll have to dig around and see wtf is going on here......
Honestly, with all the shady shit I've been seeing lately, it wouldn't suprise me if someone too the work I did, converted to mp3, then back to FLAC and passed it off without noting the damn text file.....
Folks....we (the people who do the txfers and mastering) know what we're doing (for the most part...lol). PLEASE.....and I can't stress this enough....PLEASE DO NOT ALTER FILESETS AFTER THEY'VE BEEN SEEDED......BRING IT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE PERSON WHO DID THE TXFER/MASTERING SO THEY CAN FIX IT PROPERLY......
|I am going to pop in the seed I have from 2005 now, but from what I remember, in addition to the 45-second gap before Hrose, were unexplained breaks between songs and I believe a cut in Bold as Love that was not not noted at the time.
Again, going to give it a listen and see exactly what I have.
Thanks for the effort everyone. We'll get it right eventually, because I think this show is worth it.
|Any seeds that Marmar/A-Train did from my tapes or transfers would have been clearly marked as in the 7/20/93 board he seeded around christmas (though, my last name is actually Gray, but that's fine):
"Transfer by Rusty Grey.
Editing, and FLAC16 by: Marmar- email@example.com"
If you've got the info file for the circa 2005 fileset you're referring to, a blurb similar to the above would be in it if it is indeed the version that was Marmarized.
At any rate, I'm going to give a try updating the DB with this source, so it's at least historically preserved even if we're not sure what happened to the Marmar version. Wish me luck
|LOL, Thanks for this, but the text file is also wrong on this. According to the www.mockingbirdfoundation.org setlist, disc3 track4 should be:
Tweezer -> Big Black Furry Creature from Mars -> Tweezer, Big Ball Jam
And there's no HYHU after Lengthwise.
You don't necessarily have to delete this torrent. When you add it to the DB, you could include the correct text file there, and advise people to download that text file before archiving to DVD-R/CD-R.
|One more post. Here is the complete entry at mockingbird for this show, with the correct segue notation (> or ->).
Thursday, November 19, 1992
Ross Arena, St. Michael's College, Colchester, VT
Set I: Maze, Fee -> Foam, Glide -> Split Open and Melt, Mound, Divided Sky, Esther, Axilla, The Horse > Silent in the Morning, Run Like an Antelope
Set II: Mike's Song > I Am Hydrogen > Weekapaug Groove, Bouncing Around the Room, It's Ice, I Walk the Line, Tweezer -> Big Black Furry Creature from Mars -> Tweezer, Big Ball Jam, Poor Heart, Fast Enough for You, Llama, Lengthwise, Cavern
Encore: Bold as Love
Show Notes: Axilla, I Walk the Line, FEFY, and Lengthwise all debuted at this show. The Big Ball Jam also debuted, as Trey explained the concept and mentioned that it was written for Pete Shaw. Divided Sky featured a tease of Those Were the Days and, along with Antelope, Poor Heart, FEFY, and Llama featured Gordon Stone on pedal steel guitar. Mike's Song included an Ice Ice Baby jam. Weekapaug included a vocal jam ending and Price of Love teases. BBFCFM featured lyrics from I Walk the Line. Lengthwise was performed in more of a reggae style than other versions and featured a vacuum solo from Fishman. The start of the second set included an Owner of a Lonely Heart tease. Bold as Love was played for the first time since April 18, 1990 (276 shows).
|You're correct about the BBFCM and wrong about the HYHU.
|"Take a breather" is performed during the Weekapaugh. Trey even sings a line or two.
|best llama ever?
|This is now in the DB. Hopefully people can stop reseeding/trading 27589 in favor of this one now that it is tracked in the DB.
|I know I'm about... 9 months late on this one, but I would love to get this source. Thanks, dubbs
|yes, perhaps the best llama ever. i do recall the one from the greek in los angeles, fall 98, was off the hook, but i haven't heard that version since the show itself.
the fast enough with gordon stone is also a keeper.
|Could someone please reseed this
|Yeah, Reseed PLEASE
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