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| Artist | Medeski, Martin & Wood |
| Show | MMW 2007-10-18 Culture Room Ft. Lauderdale, FL *** DPA4061 24-bit UPDATED w FFP *** |
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| Torrent | mmw2007-10-18.dpa4061.flac24.updated.torrent (click to download) |
| Downloads as | mmw2007-10-18.dpa4061.flac24 |
| Info hash | 9a3fd5abe581419f4a830c522ebba0d0fe26f952 |
| db link | http://db.etree.org/shn/88300 | Show | Source |
| Description | Medeski, Martin and Wood
Culture Room
Ft. Lauderdale, FL
October 18, 2007
*** 24-bit @ 48kHz ***
DPA4061->ST-9100->MT@24/48
LOC 3" under lip of stage, ~18" apart, right of center
SF7(gain+2.5dB)>CDWave>>FLAC24
Recorded by Jay
Two Discs:
01 Moanin'
02 Improv/New Tune ->
03 Improv/New Tune ->
04 Improv ->
05 Last Chance To Dance Trance (Perhaps)
06 Egbe Mi O (Carry Me I Want To Die)
07 Mercy Mercy Mercy
II:
01 Where's The Music? (from Let's Go Everywhere)
02 After the Onsen (unreleased original from 12-29-2005 osaka)
03 What I'd Say (Ray Charles)
04 Improv/New Tune (?) >
05 Nocturne
06 Tootie Ma is a Big Fine Thing -> ??? ->
07 New Planet
08 I Want To Ride You
Encore
09 Hey Joe
NOTE:
- Burn using DVD/DVD-A authoring program PCM linear mode or play on CPU with most media players
- Pixs included
- For free distribution only!!! Do not resample, etc, etc...
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| Type | Medeski, Martin & Wood |
| Last seeder | Last activity 1330 days, 07:43:10 ago |
| Size | 1.761 GB (1890809056 Bytes) |
| Added | 2007-11-04 12:18:09 |
| Views | 4 |
| Hits | 587 |
| Snatched | 53 times |
| Upped by | mp3weenie |
| Num files | 19 files |
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| mmw20071018.dpa4061.ffp.txt | 912 B | N/A |
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| mmw20071018.dpa4061.txt | 930 B | N/A |
| mmw20071018d01t01.flac | 80.74 MB | N/A |
| mmw20071018d01t02.flac | 83.81 MB | N/A |
| mmw20071018d01t03.flac | 83.96 MB | N/A |
| mmw20071018d01t04.flac | 35.69 MB | N/A |
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| mmw20071018d02t09.flac | 78.43 MB | N/A |
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| mp3weenie |
2007-11-04 12:20:30 |
*** Update with FFP, sorry ***
24-bit onmis under lip of stage, if you want 16-bit get it here:
http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=510482
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| 011968 |
2007-11-05 11:24:24 |
heya can we get the first show plz....
10-17 was the fire. thanks very much for taping
video came out great btw multicam :) |
| mp3weenie |
2007-11-05 21:05:28 |
| My first night was incomplete (battery dropped mid second set) but sounds great. I could post incomplete and get the setlist going etc and encourage others to post... (maybe the blumen MK4Vs hint hint) |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-06 13:33:45 |
I like this one because I believe in DPA microphones. It would be helpful if someone could point the way to convert to 44.1 kHz. I also like that fact that there is a little more audience at the start. The audience really were positive. Is this the last concert they did?
Stephen |
| mp3weenie |
2007-11-06 19:47:23 |
| try r8brain to sample convert but please do not redistribute. MMW headed to Jacksonville and Clearwater before heading to Spain. I am happy that I got to catch the Culture Room shows (this being the second night) but was unhappy that I was not able to attend the other shows although I planned to... I will post the first night even though it is incomplete because it just sounds so good... probably this weekend if not sooner. |
| 011968 |
2007-11-07 02:03:30 |
| thanks jay appreciate it...btw who was running mk4v's/blumlein? that ide have to hear.... lmk so we can track back to that recorder an get it and maybe matrix two sources for the DVD's... |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-07 02:09:03 |
The full title is 'Last Chance to Dance Trance (Perhaps)'. This is one of their earliest and best pieces. I is very interesting to hear how fresh and happening it sounds in this latest rendition.
Stephen |
| duggy |
2007-11-07 07:14:16 |
Thanks for the 24bit seed...do you mind my asking why you're opposed to this circulating at 16bit/44.1 for the general listeners (myself being one)?
I'm going to resample for my own use (I find no listening benefit on my system using a 24bit source), but I'm just curious why you wouldn't want more folks to enjoy your recording....
Thanks again for the seed.
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| mp3weenie |
2007-11-07 08:55:53 |
011968 - dunno, one of the "lip posse". I did not know anyone but heavypeter might know. The first night he was in the back...
duggy - no opposition to circulating in 16-bit but I figured there was a 16-bit source out there already from another source. I guess also I figured most people would have 24-bit on their CPU or standalone DVD system. Certainly someone experienced like yourself doing the job I would not mind... I have never released in 24-bit before and I have not compared to the 16/44.1 but I think since I added my preamp that you should get some benefit on the 24/48 assuming like you said your system will support.
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| ChengGwo |
2007-11-07 11:57:23 |
I am resampling an odd way Using Audacity, I am changing the speed by 8.84353741497%, then changing the sample rate to 44100. Changing the sample rate doesn't resample, so I really resample when I increase the speed by 8 percent. I end up with a wave file that takes up the same amount of time down to the 75th of a second. (Which I don't count on being on a CD segment boundary, so I either fadeout at the end of concatenate the files before I start.)
I don't care whether this gets upped in 44.1 because the other taping is excellent, as I said, I am a fan of the dpa microphones. The recording levels are perfect too.
The audience might be a little more present here than in the other. That might be the drawback with dpa microphones. That is they are more failthful in documenting the room as a whole. They are not as selective, so while recording the sound of the Band more accurately, they also pickup more of the audience. Anyway, both tapings are of excellent quality, so I think it is better to have this one in 24-bit and the other in 16-bit.
Stephen |
| mp3weenie |
2007-11-07 19:57:15 |
ChengGwo use r8brain it is free I believe and does a great job. As for the DPAs these are omni where the other source Neumens are hyper cardiods which by nature are more directional...
One difference was that I mounted my mics below the lip of the stage so I think it cut down on the crowd more than the above the lip would have... In anycase I am glad you like. This was one of my best...
Jay |
| realkilgoretrout |
2007-11-07 20:30:42 |
| "Moanin'" is actually a Bobby Timmons cover, easily confused with the Art Blakey album. |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-07 23:53:40 |
I looked it up, because I know the tune and know that the Jazz Messengers did it. It was written by Bobby Timmons, but Bobby Timmons was Art Blakey's pianist! This according to the liner notes to Starbucks Gazebo Blend jazz compilation. Art Blakey was a drummer, by the way and the leader of the Messengers, whose personnel changed many times over the years.. I am a jazz fan. MMW's adventurous approach is more historically true to jazz, imho. I think jazz was always meant to be a popular art form and to reflect the times.
Stephen |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-08 03:10:02 |
Yes, regarding the microphones, I feel a little silly after checking the other and finding it is a neumann. Another great one. But yes, imo and after checking out the dpa site, dpa microphones are supposed to pick up the ambient noise of the room. This gives a more accurate picture of how the instruments sound, yet the tradeoff is that the audience is more present too. I mean I think it is a tradeoff and really worth it, but the best answer is that there is no perfect solution and no mic can be said to be best. I was originally impressed with the sound of d+t2007-07-28 at Hampton. There the sound of the audience is way too much, yet the sound of the guitars and singing are very clear as well. In this case, there must have been a placement issue, with the mic picking up the music clearly despite being too far from it.
Stephen |
| realkilgoretrout |
2007-11-08 18:41:59 |
| I agree, Stephen, this is why the reactionary "purism" of people like W. Marsalis is so funny to me. Dissing the experimentation of people like Miles in the '70s is tantamount to freezing musical progression in its tracks. MMW keeps it alive, methinks. |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-09 14:13:24 |
To tell the truth 'experimentation' can turn me off. MMW are very unselfconscience about what they do. They are not trying to be different. Instead they are comfortable with who they are. This is a very rare commodity in modern society. Dave Matthews is like that too in that he is willing to just follow his muse. The Jazz Messengers cover and also Mercy, Mercy, Mercy are very traditional Jazz Funk to my ears. Then again Nocturne feels modern to me. Last Chance to Dance Trance (Perhaps) is a more current interpretation imho. I think I can hear the earlier Jazz Funk that propelled them to fame initially, plus the sounds that were more typical of their Blue Note period.
Stephen |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-18 17:01:21 |
Apparently, no two samplers sample at exactly the same rate. Such that two recordings can be layered on top of one another.
I used FooBar200 to save the first set as one file. Then I ran it through r8brain. Then I saved Steven Kwartin's version using FooBar2000 as one file also.
Here's the tricky part. To get them to line up, I opened them both up in Audacity and changed the tempo by 0.0044% of the Kwartin version. They simply are not at exactly the same speed for some reason. And Kwartin used r8brain to convert to 44.1kHz too.
Then copy the first 1784802 samples and paste it to the beginning of the Kwartin file which used neumannTLM-170R (Sub-Cardiod) mics. copy the extra bits at the end of that file and paste it onto this file.
Then what I chose to do was use the left channel of the dpa mic recording and the right channel of the neumann mic recording. I think the amount of delay I added to the neumann track determined that it must be on the right. As far as I can tell (and I can't tell at all) he recorded to the left of you.
By putting the recordings in different channels, I eliminate interference when they fail to line up by a couple of samples. Is there an easy way to line up recordings?
My ears tell me it sounds good this way, what do others think?
Stephen |
| ChengGwo |
2007-11-21 11:11:57 |
I don't know if this is even well received or kosher, and I don't know how many people are still reading this, but I think I should update what I am doing.
neumann mic tempo change increase still 0.0044%. This is using a standard Audacity effect.
but the neumann mic, set I, gets shifted by only 1784570 samples from the beginning of the right track of the dpa mic track by tacking it on to the beginning. (Using the right track of neumann and the left track of dpa still works best).
You can divide 1784570 by 44100 to get 40.4664399 seconds of silence to tack onto the beginning of it too. The point is to try and line them up with each other. It is a linear equation, multiplying by a tempo change and adding a constant offset.
My question that remains is is there a better way to find the multiplier and constant?
Stephen |
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