|Artist||Medeski, Martin & Wood|
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|Description||Medeski, Martin and Wood|
July 18, 2008
The Bomhard Theater
Neumann KM-140 (active cables in ORTF bar) > directly plugged into Sound Devices 702
in order to avoid any further cables. (24bit/96kHz)
S.D. 702 > Compact Flash extremeIII > PC > Samplitude v8.31 (resample 24/96>16/44.1,
level adj,tracking, but no other eq/noise reduction or other modification of signal)
16/44.1 wav > .flac via FLAC frontend lv 8
This venue (there are some great ones in Louisville!) has regular seats with a central
area that has several round tables up front. We were in the Front Row table 'B'. Initial
hassles that shackaholic recieved with taping made me set up a small tripod on the table
which was about 15 inches above stage level, 2 feet back from stage lip and 3 feet to the
left of dead center. At set break I put the mics on my stand instead and put them 10 inches
above stage level looking right over the stage lip Dead Fucking Center. The band was set
set up about 20 feet back from the stage lip. Though MMW does not allow on stage mic'ing
anymore, this is about as close as you can get. Listen for differences between set I and
II, I bet few can hear the 3 foot slide to the right. I would put this in the top 10
recordings I have ever pulled, sound quality wise. The band was dialed in perfectly and
I do not know if these tracks match up correctly or not, as this was all new music. Thanks
to shackaholic for the setlist info...I have only cut 6 tracks in I and 10 in II since the
track breaks are a bit hard to find. Thanks to Rex T for the kind seats!
bass solo >
"triple breaks" >
illyb percussion solo
piano solo >
"piano funk boogie"
E: untitled --recipe cooked up 'special for the 'ville.
|Type||Medeski, Martin & Wood|
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|Sorry about the slow uploading/ firewalling issues here. I am stuck with this connection. I will try and get this to a friend who can help with upload bandwidth later today or tomorrow.....
I know there are already 3 other versions of this show out there. Brent, Brian--good to see you there! Been a long time...
All of these versions sound great! In this case I really like mine and figured others might like this flavor. I really lucked out with the killer location and figured this source should be spread around. This show was stellar.
|thanks for posting this.
and yeah, i definitely faced some troubles while setting up. i was told to go to the back and tape by the board. i tried making the point that my mics weren't in anyones way but the venue wasn't having it so i went to the back and set up by the board. shortly thereafter i was told that taping was in fact allowed up front so i moved my rig back to front row, which was where i was seated, and set up shop.
definitely interested in comparing our sources. did all of john's keyboards make it into your recording?
More than psyched to hear this.
Thanks a ton.
|Interested to hear this too...thanks for taping and sharing, man...
|glad to see this up. always like finding other sources. enjoyed meeting you, glad to see this up. thanks for taping again. i can't wait to hear this source & compare it to the other 3. i have to admit we are spoiled. 4 choices for this show, and all up within a week. decisions, decisions. thanks for this one.
|All of the keys are there..... everthing seemed to come out well. Let me know what you all think!
|I've already listened toparts of it and it sounds incredible.
John came in clear.
|nice work Chris! hope all is well with you...
I haven't been keeping up with these guys for a couple years. Nice to see new material. I'm pumped to hear this. Seems like they milked EOTWP for all they could, went into a limbo period , then join up with Sco again. EOTWP wasn't as good to me as The Dropper or FAITU (JMO), but these guys have always been very talented and versatile which is their most enduring trait. They can pull anything out of their hats at any given time.
Didn't mean to ramble on but this looks very cool. Thanks again.
|shackaholic---curious as to what you think of this pull. You are the MMW guru around here. I did not think the keys were that muted on your pull. I know we are splitting hairs over great recordings, but of course we are hair-splitting kind of folks around here ;^) Damn the bass solo and snare sounds good......
KC- Wow, good to hear from you. What's it been, like 10 years? Whats up with the 140 on your handle? Do you run neumanns nowadays? Still in Dayton? I have 4y/o, 2y/o and 5m/o kids who are super cute but super time consuming, so my taping days have gotten fewer and further between. I have the same email as before, feel free to drop me a line.
|chris - i sold the 140's last year, after running them for about 7yrs.... i thought i saw you @ moe. in louisville '04 & gave you a patch? not one of my better recordings... i am still in dayton, unfortunately... anyway, i no longer have your email
|I love this stage lip recording and Mike's "front row" recording.
I can honestly say that I don't prefer either of the Scheops (location...)
This stage lip sounds awesome.. and there is nothing missing , Medeski's keys come through loud and clear (I think the piano comes through a little louder on the Neumann source). On the Neumann's you can really feel the bass amp right in front of you, whereas on Mike's AKG's you can really feel the stereo seperation coming from the stacks (and I just LOVE the way the bass sounds on Mike's AKG recording, it's soo reflective of what it sounded like where I was in the room.)
In conclusion, i'm keeping both sources as wonderful memories of my 43rd MMW show, and probably in my top 3 shows by them also... (as Mike said, top 3 definately!)
|This quality is outstanding.
Sounds pretty balanced to my ears.
None of the keys, clav, piano, tron, or melodica are muted.
Great mids and lows.
Billy and chris came through very nice.
Sometimes what happens with mmw stage lip tapes is that one or two of medeski's calvalry is muted.
The clav and piano usually.
I'm not sure why other than I think his clav monitor is up higher.
|all in all, yours is definitely louder and more up front sounding. most of the hairs are too small for me to accurately split. they both sound great.
comparing them so closely kind of reminds me of the business card scene from the movie american psycho!
|The big difference IMO is just that.
Mikes recording smokes from the stacks and yours smokes from the monitors/actual instruments.
Not any hairs to split.
Two different sound sources two top notch tapes.
I am going to try to set up stage-lip for them next-time.
|"comparing them so closely kind of reminds me of the business card scene from the movie american psycho!"
ha, good analogy. thanks for all the descriptions and tech info, it really helps. thanks for taping/seeding also
|I wasnt shooting for a 'whose pull is better'. More of a discussion of the different flavors. I agree I like the separation on yours. I thought with them back so far I wouldnt get the full stereo image since I wasnt getting much from the stacks.
I didnt know that folks had probs from the lip with medeski's gear. I guess that with him as far back as he was I got more of an even set of levels. I will pay attention to that the next time I see them and pull back from the lip if they are on top of us.
I love the bass solo...hearing his fingers squeak a bit across the strings is terrific.
KC, you are right about moe....forgot about that one. I dont have any gigs planned until bela/flecktones here in louisville (will tape from the front row center balcony rail at the maccauley/brown....great spot considering the stacks are so high up. if you come down, drop me a line...cmescia at hotmmmmmail.com
|Just a casual observation but oftentimes the recordings coming from the stacks include the subs which is too much for my ears. Some of the earlier MMW recordings from the last few years (mainly the EOTWP tour) have this yucky feature. I like the bass drum on this recording. A good hearty thump.
|"I wasnt shooting for a 'whose pull is better'. More of a discussion of the different flavors. I agree I like the separation on yours. I thought with them back so far I wouldnt get the full stereo image since I wasnt getting much from the stacks."
I hear ya. Like Randy, I'll be keeping both of our sources for this show. I don't tape a whole lot, so I'd have to say that my recording for this night is my best yet. If yours is only in your top ten, then the other nine must really smoke!