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Show{DttC047} 1977-11-04,06 & 12-29,30: Colgate U, Binghamton, Winterland [SHNIDs 3739, 283, 18675, 20009]
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Description11/4/77
Coterrell Gymnasium, Colgate University (the Homecoming Dance!)
Hamilton, NY

Disc 1
1. Bertha
2. Good Lovin'
3. Brown-Eyed Women
4. Cassidy
5. It Must Have Been the Roses
6. Sunrise
7. Minglewood Blues
8. Dupree's Diamond Blues
9. Let It Grow

Disc 2
1. "Jones Gang" Introduction*
2. Samson & Delilah
3. Cold Rain & Snow
4. Playing in the Band
5. Eyes of the World
6. Estimated Prophet
7. The Other One

Disc 3
1. drums
2. Iko Iko
3. Stella Blue
4. Playing in the Band
5. (E) Johnny B. Goode

*The NEW track (gd77-11-04d2t01NEW.shn) contains a patch for the famous "Jones Gang" introduction to set 2. This has been patched to contain the complete intro from a quite good audience tape (AUD: MR> C> C -- not a completely reliable sourcing, but close enough for its purpose here). The crowd is prominent, and the AUD is fun because they're absolutely nuts. In fact, the whole show circulates in AUD and it's recommended.


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Grateful Dead Broome County Arena Binghamton, NY 11.6.77

Source:
Reel -> DAT -> CDR
Transfer:
EAC -> Shorten 32
By Doug Nawrocki

CD 1/Set 1:
Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo
Jack Straw
Tennessee Jed
Mexicali Blues ->
Me And My Uncle
Friend Of The Devil
New Minglewood Blues
Dupree's Diamond Blues
Passenger
Dire Wolf

CD 2:
The Music Never Stopped
Set 2:
Samson And Delilah
Sunrise
Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain ->
Good Lovin'

CD 3:
Saint Stephen ->
Drums ->
Not Fade Away ->
Wharf Rat ->
Saint Stephen ->
Truckin'
Encore:
Johnny B. Goode

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Grateful Dead
Winterland Arena
San Francisco, CA
12-29-77

Dick's Picks 10 outtakes

SBD>?>SHN

Set 2

01. It Must Have Been The Roses
02. Sunrise

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Grateful Dead 12-30-77
Winterland Arena San Francisco CA

SBD>>MR>>DAT>>CDA - Sound A Show A

updated tracklist for this fileset:
Disc One:
Set 1
1. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo
2. Me And My Uncle
3. Dire Wolf
4. Looks Like Rain
5. Row Jimmy
6. Big River
7. Bobby's hunter joke
8. Peggy-O
9. Passenger
10. Ramble On Rose
11. Let It Grow

Disc Two:
Set 2 partial
1. Samson And Delilah
2. Ship Of Fools
Encore
3. U.S. Blues
4. Good Lovin'

Not included in this fileset are the following Dick's Picks 10 bonus tracks from set 2:
Estimated Prophet >
Eyes Of The World > Jam>
Saint Stephen >
Sugar Magnolia

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SteveSw 2008-10-05 20:11:03
Spring '77 obviously gets its share of attention. Fall '77 gets less, and perhaps deserves more. I used to like the Fall '77 tour a little better than Spring only because I wasn't as familiar with the music. As I've listened to the music a bit more, I've decided that Fall brought an ineffable edge to the proceedings that year: the jams are a little jammier, the rockers a little rockier, the lyrics a little more emotively sung, everything is a little looser in the good sense.

Eric recommends three shows from the Fall tour: 11/5, 11/6, and 12/29. 11/5 and 12/29 are both commercially released. I can help with 12/29 by sharing the two "outtake" sources that will let you make complete shows out of Dick's Picks 10. And while 11/5 is a great show, I think 11/4 is as good or better, so that's a fine recovery....

Bizarrely, the Grateful Dead were hired to play the homecoming dance at Colgate on 11/4/1977. So when you listen to this show, you have to imagine the band up on a stage, surrounded by balloons and streamers and similar festive decorations, playing to a bunch of people in tuxedos and formal dresses. I don't know if that's how it actually went down, but that's how I picture it, and it amuses me. The first set, in particular, is quite danceable (at least 'til the last song, an excellent Let It Grow that leaves normal melody and rhythm behind and is only danceable by the advanced psychonaut). The show is famously described in the eTree info file thusly: "This seed slipped into the 'tree under the radar from the alt.dead crew last month without the fanfare this Royal Assblaster deserves. The crazily fast, tight mania that crackles off of this show will leave you breathless and exhausted after a full listen. A good show to compare this to would be 77.05.04. While both shows exhibit the signature '77 hyperdelic cocaine soundstamp -- 05.04 is a nice moonlit, redwine convertible ride compared to the violent psychic enema the Dead gave these undergraduates that magical night at Colgate. The blistering solos during this Eyes of the World alone will make every effort to toss you bodily over The Cliff. This one will clean the tubes right out -- never mind the initial pressure behind the eyes and those leering insectoid midgets as the skein of space/time unravels, just hang ON to your faces, loyal SHNarvesters, this is some ride...". Given this vivid description, I don't know if you also need to hear about the great banter between the band and the boys, or the astonishing Playin' sandwich jam. It's a great under-apprecaited show, give it a listen.

Is is is wont, Eric passes relatively quickly over the first set when he describes 11/6. He does call out the "all-time" Half-Step that opens the show, though he doesn't talk about the jam that seems to just keep going up and up past all expectation, as if there is no end to the guitar neck or the energy, and it's only the first song! The rest of the first set has a lot of highlights -- the Jack Straw that follows Half-Step, and then pretty much everything starting with Dupree's and going to the end of the set. The first half of the second set (the Sunrise, the Scarlet > Fire, the Franklin's) has a very subtle groove to it -- I can find myself bored by the music if my ears slip the rails, but when my head's on track all the little details and interplayfulness is really sweet. Around about Good Lovin' the energy starts picking up. It builds through NFA and starts shining in Wharf Rat, then it explodes and cascades in a truly astounding Truckin'. This is a really weird and wonderful Truckin'. Eric hears it mostly as Jerry going truly off into guitar-ghod land, "showboating" with the rest of the guys backing him up. Both Eric and the compendium reviewer note that this is as close as the band can get to a Jimmy Page / Led Zepplin vibe. Eric says it "burns with megawatt intensity as it streaks its way across the Dead firmament."

12/29 has a lot of attractions: solid and consistent play, good song selection, great singing, a monster jam sandwich making up the bulk of the second set. Still, from listening to the show and talking with people who attended, I think the real excellence that makes the show historic was the astonishingly pure link that formed that night between the band and the crowd. It's too bad we don't have an excellent audience recording of the entirety of this show: I bet a nickel it'd be a much better listen as an AUD than it is as a SBD. I miss that AUD, because when I listen to the Dick's Picks, I don't hear what the fuss is about in the actual notes, and so I'm left wondering. To me these recordings have the feel of being young and horny and lonely in a hotel room while good friends in the next room over are making noisy love with one another. It's not that the SBD we're listening to is bad, it's just not what they're having. I think you had to be there: the artifact left behind doesn't seem to hold its own as well as other SBDs of great shows have (compare this with 8/27/72 for instance).

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This project is a musical adjunct to and a book review of Eric Wybenga's _Dead To The Core_. I'm going to seed a copy of all the music mentioned in the book except for the stuff that has been commercially released. You might want to pick up a copy of the book and read along with me while I'm seeding -- I think it'll be worth your while. Here are some of the many places you can find one:

POWELLS: http://tinyurl.com/5vv7k6
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russiancrowe13 2008-10-05 21:04:04
Thank you for this. I am enjoying all the GD here lately.
nowaywally 2008-10-05 22:10:13
What a sweet assortment of shows. I already have 'em, but just think it's a nice thing to pass these along.
Eric_A_DeadHead 2008-10-05 22:36:36
Well... this is all about pain pills, there is a comment on 11-5-77 (Dick's Pick) where, I think Phil, says something about "Dr. Endo" I believe, whatever the name was I recognized it as a drug manufacturer that makes Percodan (which I had to take when I couldn't walk years ago, long story that sadly continues in part to this day...), so that was 11-5, and this is, what, 11-6 and *this* day, they're "The Jones Gang", doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out, hey, yesterday it was Percodan, today, apparently they have run out... Also, I think it's Parish who talks about Rock and Jerry taking handfuls of Percodan in Egypt so they wouldn't get sick. Bottom line, we already have "Junkie Jerry" at this early date, which corroborates Parish's statement that he first saw Garcia do smack sometime before '78... Anyway, thought I'd contribute, put the pieces of the puzzle together. I've got some time to kill before I head off to Sac tomorrow to get my triplicate... Believe me, if I had a choice between having no back pain or back pain + medicine, I'd take no back pain without a second thought. It's a drag to have to take that stuff (and I've tried them all... they only help to take away *some* of the pain, so at least you can walk, work, and not be completely miserable. A tip to those who might be searching for "The Right Stuff" {"It's too good!" as Lowell George once said, and I do mean the humor, not the drugs...}, I've tried all the lesser stuff AND morphine, fentanyl patches, etc., and what seems to work best for me, with the least side effects and sorta adequate pain relief is Methadone long term, with Vicodin for acute pain. They don't make you as tired as a lot of other stuff, and not the terrible sweats and itching like with M or Fentanyl...) So, that's the story behind "The Jones Gang"...

Hey, love the extra lines in "Wave That Flag" from 721017, Garcia should have kept some of those:
Read the signs, connect the lines. Pay your fines, save your dimes. Lose the keys, [flub, flub,flub] Smashing fleas, use the cheese..." Garcia flubbed in there, so I expect that last one should have been "Cut the cheese", seriously. There's a bunch of other lines, also, so it's meant as a sort of laundry list of things Uncle Sam is encouraging you to do, Big Brother giving advice, making exhortations. Pretty cool, but obviously Garcia had a adifficult time rekmembering all of them. There's at least three more sets of verses he tries to run through in addition to the above, that he flubs. Cool concept, though. I wanna see Hunter's original now!

BTW: I NEVER used to take pain medicine or stuff like that before my back pain. Not my trip (besides a brief fling with a roll of those Tylenol with Codeine single dose packets a friend of mine's dad got from the medical clinic he worked at... reminded me of Zots candy, I think it was... I wouldn't suggest taking pain medicine for kicks, it's stupid, leads to no good and can cost you your life and your loved ones immeasurable pain and suffering. Think about what is MOST important to you NOW... because eventually you'll be forced to make that decision if you get caught up in a serious addiction... Drug and alcohol addiction is bad news, stay clean and free! There is Good News enough out there if you want to find it... it can't be found in drugs and alcohol. No more preaching, I promise...
Eric_A_DeadHead 2008-10-05 22:41:04
Hey, I tried to edit some of that out before I hit the Save button, but didn't catch it in time (I did get some before that, but wanted to edit more). Sorry if my spiel annoys anyone of you... I like getting the "Inside Story" behind all the jokes and commentary the Dead pronounce from the stage... thought I'd add my two cents (well, it's worth two cents "on paper", in reality, I might have a hard time getting my money due to the current financial crisis...) Sheesh, I gotta buy a muzzle!

Steve SW thanks for this GREAT STUFF!!! I love it.
Eric_A_DeadHead 2008-10-05 23:01:06
SteveSW, this completley NAILS the deal with some of the official releases, and/or SBDs:

"...ecellent audience recording of the entirety of this show: I bet a nickel it'd be a much better listen as an AUD than it is as a SBD. I miss that AUD, because when I listen to the Dick's Picks, I don't hear what the fuss is about in the actual notes, and so I'm left wondering. {snip...} It's not that the SBD we're listening to is bad, it's just not what they're having. I think you had to be there: the artifact left behind doesn't seem to hold its own as well as other SBDs of great shows have..."

I DEFINITELY feel that way about 11-5-77 DP, a little lackluster, IMNSHO AND DP10, I've never been able to get under that show's skin... can't feel the vibe from the recording... GREAT CALL. I could name a handful of others I feel the same way about, I hear the notes, but not the spirit of the thing, no vibe, no "atmosphere" (or insect fear... but that's another story). BTW: I just heard a nice 19701108 show I downloaded that has a very early version of PITB that sounds A LOT like the Rolling Thunder version (Main Ten). I love that early PITB, sounds great! Thanks for all!
OutofIraq 2008-10-05 23:53:22
It is a great tragedy that a soundboard of 11/4/77 surfaced. The AUD recording is a "must have" since this was one of those nights where the band and audience came together as one. The AUD does this show justice. The SBD will sound sterile in comparison. If I were to do an matrix of this show, it would be 40% SBD/70% AUD.

The exclusion of 11/5 (Rochester) makes 11/6 a wee bit of a disappointment. The band always played well in upstate New York towns and these two shows are the book (11/5) and the other bookend (11/6) to the 11/4 show.

That said, 11/6 is an enormous show, probably the best of 1977 in my opinion. The Compendium says the 11/6 "1/2 Step" is the penultimate version of that song in the same sense as the 5/8 "Morning Dew". Garcia's last solo of "1/2 Step" is enough to trigger flashbacks to the long gone days of "Tiger" jams.

The Winterland shows, featuring the "Just Exactly Perfect Brothers Band, showcase the band as it should be with two nights of total bliss. (Note: No one ever mentions 12/31 for the usual reason that the GD never played a show that fully lived up expectations on one of "those" days.) The problem here is that both shows were chopped up for DP X, leaving only the bits and pieces behind. If you take the time to put the each of the shows back together again, it is well worth the effort.

I am a big fan of the November and December 1977 GD shows plus the May Capitol Theater/Palladium run. Most of the rest of 1977 sounds great but the relatively static set lists and the way some songs are performed makes the balance of the year sound like a really great cover band sat in and played some hot tunes. The "Just Exactly Perfect Bothers Band" indeed. Maybe too perfect.
SteveSw 2008-10-06 00:45:56
I look forward to your 40/70 matrix, friend. Elvis Costello was a "less than zero" sort of person sometimes; here, you are a "more than one" guy.

I agree with you about Jerry Moore's audience recording of 11-04. I don't think it's a shame there's a SBD, and I like the Sick Bits matrix, but I think the AUD is brilliant. Folks can grab it here:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd77-11-04.moore.jupile-weiner.15208.sbeok.shnf

I grab shows from the LMA using DownloadThemAll, which is a plugin for FireFox. I go to the page, I click on the "All Files: HTTP" link, and then I use a lossless filter in DownloadThemAll to just grab the files i need. Nearly completely painless.

Eric, I tend to like most SBDs as well as AUDs -- it's like a "both sides now" experience, stepping back and just hearing the music is often just as good as hearing the experience on the floor. It's one of the things that makes this band unique, that they did both things so well. But for 12/29/77 in particular, I find the "SBD" side of the equation lacking. I can understand how others might feel that more often....

I am not so interested in using this project to gather information about the real or projected drug addictions of the band. I realized I felt that way a week or two ago, and said so in a comment somewhere. But I won't be talking about that any more: I want to just focus on the music.
mscott70 2008-10-06 01:46:53
I am a big fan of Fall 77. They take it to another level - not as "exactly perfect" as spring 77 but looser & more rockin. 10-29 is outstanding, surprised it did not get a mention in the book.

11-4 is available in a great matrix, Sick Bits I believe.
mscott70 2008-10-06 01:53:03
Oh, and thanks to SteveSW for his relentless efforts. Most of the shows I have, but I am filling in some gaps along the way.

And the entire jam from Playin thru Playin on 11-4 is fantastic, especially the Eyes. And i just checked, it is a sick bits matrix that I recommend over the straight sbd.
canadian_head 2008-10-06 08:18:17
I love the Led Zep comparison of 11/6/77 - I've always thought the back half of the second set is one of the best of '77, if not ever. IMO fall of 1977 maintains the tightness from earlier in the year and adds a little energy; by 1978 things seem somewhat more unpredictable and a little less refined. For that matter, 1977 is the dividing line for me: I can listen to almost any show pre-1978, once 1978 starts I find that I have to be considerably more choosy.
TominRI 2008-10-06 11:19:28
Just a few thoughts on the show at Colgate. I was a Junior there in 1977 and went to the show, and had a great time. It is amusing to think that it was a Homecoming event but clearly it was simply a great opportunity for the Social Committee to score a coup by booking such a big act who were, conveniently, in the area (shows in Rochester on 11/5 and Binghampton on 11/6). Everyone I know who went to the show was thrilled to have the chance to see the Dead in such a small venue (the size of most good size high school gyms). I had several friends come up from RI to see the show, we were used to seeing them play in the Providence Civic Center, a building about 4 times the capacity of Cotterel Gym (and one with lousy acoustics). The Dead also played at SMU, La State, Northern Illinois and Seneca College in October and November 1977. For some reason, comments always seem to center on how Colgate students were somehow unprepared or vaguely abused (violent psychic enema?, come on). You don't see comments like that regarding the other colleges played by the Dead around this time. It wasn't the first time I had seen them and I doubt it was the first time for most in attendance. What makes people think that Colgate students were somehow different from other college students, who are, after all, the primary group who support any popular band, is a mystery to me.
ajd2222 2008-10-06 12:48:47
Also a Colgate grad, class of 81... I loved the show--the "Jones Family" rap had me laughing through my mushrooms at Jerry's feet. While I was there, we had Marley, Feat and Fuller/Kaz, Kingfish (in the dining room--I forget the name of it), America and Michael Murphey, and many other great shows in small rooms. Considering we were just 2500 students and not 25,000 like Cornell (admittedly a great school and yes I love Ithaca), you gotta appreciate the show that much more. Go 'gate!
SteveSw 2008-10-06 13:49:35
TominRI, back in the day when that Hunter Thompson style was popular, you had to know two things when you ran into it. Like Hunter Thompson, people writing that way were not saying anything about the actual real world. Unlike Hunter Thompson, people writing that way were not saying anything about their actual subjective experience. They were just executing a stylistic pretense: start with a tablespoon on facts, pour in a half cup of prejudice, and mix with the dream that you own neurosis are made holy like Hunter Thompson's were if you can express them in as extreme a way.

When I quoted that paragraph in amusement, I was as amused by what the writing revealed about the writer as I was by the writing itself. I find it astonishing to imagine the band playing at a small college homecoming, but I have nothing bad to say about the college. After all, a place that invented toothpaste can't be all bad.

Don't throw that lamp at me! I was just kidding!
TominRI 2008-10-06 19:07:08
Steve, I should have started off by saying thanks for putting the show up. I have a couple of versions of it, most recently the Sick Bits matrix. I look forward to hearing this aud.

As far as the whole toothpaste thing, I am pretty sure it was invented in Maine, otherwise it would be known as teethpaste.
SteveSw 2008-10-06 20:32:22
Well, you're very welcome. It's all good....

I agree with OutOfIraq, the AUD is very good, certainly an excellent listen since the crowd and the band are so obviously into one another, and since the sound is good.

As for teethpaste, LOL....
fairtomydland 2008-10-07 02:13:41
Thanks Steve for another run through of thoughts with comments. It's always nice to come home from work and see another installation of DttC.

My 0.04$: Yes, I know any "best ever" should be taken with a barrel full o' salt. I can't see how anyone could put 11/6's Half-Step ahead of 11/5.

I'm excited to see what is in store for 78!
davidschlott 2008-10-08 10:05:01
THANKS!
TimeOnTarget 2010-06-22 00:01:30
After reading all this, I'm really jazzed to hear this. I used to play my cassette of Broome County (the second set) constantly -- one of the first I got and always one of the best.

Anyway, I've been trying to download this for a month or more and I have been completely stuck on 89% for the last two weeks.

If anyone could help me out with a seed, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
azwoogie 2012-10-26 01:28:40
Most entertaining pre-download read. Thanks for all the looped weirdness in words. Can wait to wrap my ears around it!

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