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| Description | Grateful Dead
Kresge Plaza, M.I.T.
Cambridge, Massachusetts
May 6, 1970 - Wednesday
Source: Master Soundboard Reels 10", 2-sided, 1/2 Track Mono > DAT x 1
Transfer: Panasonic SV-3700 > Cardas cable S/PDIF > Edirol UA-5 > analog out > Korg MR-1 DFF @ [1bit/2.8 mhz]
Rate Conversion: AudioGate to [24bit/96 khz]
Mastering: In WaveLab with Nomad Factory Plugins > TLH > Flac
Transfer and Mastering: Bill Koucky, Green Mountain Bros. November 15, 2008
1. Dancin' In The Streets
2. China Cat Sunflower >
3. I Know You Rider
4. Next Time You See
5. Morning Dew
6. Good Lovin'
7. Casey Jones
8. Saint Stephen >
9. Not Fade Away
Time: 87:11
Free concert - nationwide campus strikes to protest Kent State killings
Source Notes:
Transfer from Reels to DAT was done in 1994 by Eli Polansky from
WMBR MIT Radio Archives for Jim Birkhead, and cloned to Bill Koucky
Known Flaws:
Cut at beginning of Dancin� In Streets
Cut in China Cat Rider @ 4:19 is from reel change
First 1:01 of Casey Jones is 2.5 db lower than rest of track
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| Type | Grateful Dead |
| Last seeder | Last activity 13:00 ago |
| Size | 1.813 GB (1946822307 Bytes) |
| Added | 2008-11-17 15:24:30 |
| Views | 0 |
| Hits | 434 |
| Snatched | 156 times |
| Upped by | wally |
Num files
[See full list] | 13 files |
Peers
[See full list] | 0 seeders, 1 leecher = 1 peer total |
| wally |
2008-11-17 15:28:26 |
Thanks Bill and the GMB
Peace
Salah |
| gratefullydan |
2008-11-17 17:55:48 |
I am not clear of the difference between these two!?
One is half the size of the other, but the same songs?? What is the difference?
Sorry, I'm new!
thanks!!! |
| supplicationjam |
2008-11-17 18:16:46 |
| It's 24 bit vs 16 bit. You probably want to grab the smaller one. It's ready to burn to CD... |
| supplicationjam |
2008-11-17 18:24:34 |
| Thanks BTW. I used to have this bootleg on vinyl. |
| human mic stand |
2008-11-17 19:03:12 |
just wondering what the purpose of this step is:
Panasonic SV-3700 > Cardas cable S/PDIF > Edirol UA-5 > analog out > Korg MR-1 DFF @ [1bit/2.8 mhz]
Rate Conversion: AudioGate to [24bit/96 khz]
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| gratefullydan |
2008-11-17 21:11:14 |
Thank you Supplication Jam!
It's been since 6/24/91 since I've heard from you!!!!!
Nice jam!
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| Arbuthnot |
2008-11-17 22:47:27 |
| cool stuff, thanks wally & to all involved |
| terrapinstation |
2008-11-18 09:53:57 |
Most DAT decks are only capable of 16 bit, so what's the point of this exactly?
Maybe I'm missing something...don't want to appear ungrateful, but it seems to me that changing the bit rate to 24 bit post DAT is kinda pointless.
Maybe someone could elaborate here (without being a dick, please).
Thanks for the seeds.... |
| human mic stand |
2008-11-18 09:58:01 |
| i wasn't trying to be a dick either. just wondering why someone would do this. |
| tim_d |
2008-11-18 17:26:34 |
terrapinstation:
I'm getting new to 24 bit myself so I don't have a real listening answer for you, just a generalization. A 24 bit sample (for now or the future) holds more information than a 16 bit sample. The sample being taken at the same time frame.
A quick analogy would be an original reel to reel recording taken at 7 and 1/2 inches/sec vs 15 inches/sec.
For the 15 inches/sec there was much more dynamic range and frequency response, especially in the upper frequencies.
Me? I grab both 16 and 24 bit and get them on non-volatile media.
And listen of course:)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=16+vs+24+bit&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
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| human mic stand |
2008-11-18 18:36:34 |
i understand 16 vs. 24 bit vs 1bit (which is how i record.)
you can't take a 16 bit recording and transfer it to 1 bit dsd then back to 24 bit and gain any higher fidelity. all you gain is another d/a and a/d process. then convert from dsd to pcm. there is nothing to gain from the extra processing.
just wondering what the point of doing that was. |
| terrapinstation |
2008-11-18 21:34:30 |
Tim D:
Thanks for your post. But I do understand how bit resolution works. My point is this:
The original source reel was transferred to DAT. The minute this happened the maximum bit resolution was 16 bit, unless this DAT recorder was one of the rare models to do 24 bit. (There's no indication that is the case.)
So the extra processing to get it to 24 bit was pointless, as the source for this (DAT) was only a 16 bit source. I would guess this is human mic stand's point as well.
If I misunderstand something here, someone please clear it up (civilly of course).
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| tim_d |
2008-11-20 13:58:27 |
terrapinstation:
You are right and once sampled at 44.1 or 48 kHz in the case of DATs I was familiar with, that becomes the maximum resolution from an analog source. After that it is the characteristics of the DAC conversion to interpolate the analog wave, so I can't convince myself that it is an improvement in itself fidelity-wise.
(same for 16 vs 24 bit sample rates...)
So, at least based on my knowledge I believe that to be accurate as well as your understanding being accurate.
What makes me think that the 24 bit - even though based on a 16 bit sample - is valuable is that it will/should allow 24 bit playback machines to take full advantage of the media upon playback.
That is not to mention that maybe...at some point in the future I may want to convert some material I have from 16 to 24 bit, and this way it would be from the same source hardware and already done at least on this show/torrent. The cost to me only being some bandwidth and relatively inexpensive storage media.
So while the 24 bit-sample doesn't improve in itself the fidelity, the 24 bit data from the same hardware and process standard just may prove very useful.
That's my best (re)input, but I'm not a pro at these things.
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