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| Artist | Grateful Dead |
| Show | ****gd1974.10.17.GEMS.SBD.99032.flac24**** NEW 24 bit {GEMS} WINTERLAND SBD SOURCE |
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| Description | The Grateful Dead
October 17 1974
Winterland
San Francisco Califorinia
**24 bit source**
Black Maxell UDII reel tape @ 3 3/4 ips.>Akai GX 636>Apogee Mini Me(24/96)>Apogee mini DAC(monitoring/mastering)>Lynx One soundcard>Wavelab 5.0>DVD by Matt Smith
DVD-Audio 2496>DVD-A Explorer>Wavelab 6.1>GEMS Edit Station
Weiss Saracon for POWr3 Dither 24bit/96 kHz by Jamie Waddell
TradersLilHelper for FLAC8 SBE Free Tag&Rename for MetaData
Edit notes: These reels have been mastered for better tonal balance. Phil's bass was the center point of this multi track mix down. It was a tad too much to begin. A different feel than the standard vault reel master reel. The highs originally were VERY buried and or decayed and i returned them to a better position in the mix, albeit still a tad distant. This edit was in the works for a couple of months. Lots of our ears LListened as we came to the best balance for the edit. I'm sure you will enjoy.- j.w.
Matt said... "I think people will love the 10-17-74. I would put the lineage as 16track>2track for Jerry>?>R(WB@3 3/4 ips.)>DVD/CD. These 10/74 reel copies made by Will back in 1979 were most likely 'work tapes' used by Jerry for production work for the "GD Movie". all the following shows are complete including all the 'seastones' sets so more cool things on the way. Yes, i know there have been multiple versions of these shows but IMHO, these are unique versions that were Jerry's own copies that were dubbed from by Will. Basically these versions were never copied by anyone in will's circle since everyone already had them via rob bertrando and no one at the time bothered to investigate them. Remember, this was 1979 and the GD were still a great behemoth of a touring machine so everyone was more concerned with taping new shows. There is no cassette gen with these as they were straight reel copies that i know for sure so these 24 bit versions esp. are really nice. Whether Jerry had a master of a 2 track mixdown or a copy will never be known for sure but these really do sound fantastic regardless. Much more of a "being there" feeling IMHO.. ENJOY!! ....Stuff from the debbie stash is hard to explain at times and nailing down exact lineages is even harder. either way they all sound fantastic!!! It was the kind of deal where Will suddenly found out about all these reels/cassettes that Jerry "left" there so he copied as much as he could w/o any concern of the exact source. There were TONS of stuff everywhere strewn all over the house.."
a **GEMS** Production www.shnflac.net May 2009
-Complete Seastones
-listen for a fan scream for mexicali before they play a note of it
-Last two minutes of rider patched with alternate aud
-Huge Thanks to Matt Smith for the Transfer work and Deadication.
-big Thanks To Todd Evans for Project GEMS...
" Helpin' to dust off those reels just one more time!!"
~~Set 1~~
01.BG Introduction
02.Promised Land
03.Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodleoo
04.Black Throated Wind
05.Friend of the Devil
06.Jack Straw
07.Loser
08.El Paso
09.China Cat Sunflower >
10.I Know You Rider
11.Me and My Uncle
12.It Must Have Been the Roses
13.Weather ReportPrelude >
14.Part 1 >
15.Let it Grow
16.Phil Lesh and Ned Lagin - Seastones
~~Set 2~~
17.Scarlet Begonias
18.Big River
19.Ramble On Rose
20.Mexicali Blues
21.He's Gone >
22.The Other One >
23.Spanish Jam >
24.Mind Left Body Jam >
25.The Other One >
26.Stella Blue
Sugar Magnolia(missing)
~~Encore
Casey Jones (missing)
US Blues (missing)
We actually have the last three tracks, the same aud used for the rider patch, which was a work of art to get it even that close, LOL. We may release the aud if we can get it to sound listenable. Hopefully those tracks will surface elsewhere. |
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| Type | Grateful Dead |
| Last seeder | Last activity 31:45 ago |
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| superfreakie |
2009-05-17 06:46:12 |
24 bit trippiness
It goes without saying a dear thank you to Matt, Todd, Jamie and www.shnflac.net . This is truly a very special gift from very special people and place. |
| superfreakie |
2009-05-17 07:55:00 |
| There are few sound gremlins in Promised Land that Healy works out by the end of the song (something is blown). |
| simonwagstaff |
2009-05-17 08:00:45 |
| Awesome, thanks to you guys who go through the work to play these reels one more time, for the sake of 24 bit . I only have one true reel>24 bit, the GAMH and it is fantastic and well worth the effort. This show is worthy of your attention and I thank you! BTW, for those not into it yet, DVD audio creator is a fine program that will generate a DVD that is playable on just about any DVD player. |
| rustystrings |
2009-05-17 13:38:53 |
until china cat,
the house sound system had issues and you are forewarned to expect sonic gremlins....some question as to the safety of the noises.
each are attentuated to well below peak level, and while i agree they dont sound nice, they are not dangerous for your speakers.
little chirps in 1/2 step, loud ness in promised land and over all oddities abound as they get the WOS just exactly rite |
| simonwagstaff |
2009-05-17 16:43:24 |
I know this is the wrong place, but I don't know where else to post it.
SURE would be nice to dig up those Betty reels and maybe throw a nice big re-master party and transfer a bunch of those suckers at 24/96, or at least 24/48. I would love to hear Cornell 77, Buffalo 77 and some of that 72 and 73 stuff in 24 bit resolution (JEEZ, not to mention some of that 71 stuff like Manhattan Center etc. SHEESH!)
I hope whoever currently has the reels will consider it though it is a lot of work I am sure. The first round of transfers were done several years ago on "old/primitive" digital equipment. Transfer of analogue reel masters to 24 bit is where the new high ground is.
:)
BTW I met Dan Healey at New Years and he confirmed that the Grateful Dead had never done any 24 bit digital recording. Transfer of reels to 24 bit is going to be as good as it gets. Can't wait for more!
Looking forward to this one. The jam is fantastic. I have vidid memories of driving through Vermont at night with a full moon above....
:) |
| Jermz |
2009-05-18 18:50:28 |
So many thanks to all involved!
Gonna have to strap on a drool cup until this sucker completes and seeds back.
Many thanks again for your kindness and hard work!
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| jhw59 |
2009-05-19 22:55:43 |
| so I burn this as DVD-A? Sorry for the rookie question. |
| unclemeat1967 |
2009-05-21 01:15:48 |
| Has anyone else noticed the 2 second repeat at the very beginning of Promised Land? It's not a false start, because it's not on the Barbella source. |
| Mattrob487 |
2009-09-07 15:23:56 |
Hey thanks to all who put the work into this project.
Thanks. |
| TPelts |
2010-03-02 12:15:11 |
JHW 59:
These WAV files need to be converted/rewritten to either a DVD-A or DVD-V file for DVD burning. It doest matter which as long as your DVD/Blu-ray player plays both DVD Audio and Video discs. My Blu Ray only allows DVD-V. So I converted the 24 bit Wav's to DVD-V using a free program(the first 5 complete burns are free) Cirlinca DVD solo 2.5. Hope this helps. feel free to email me if you have probs. tpelts@yahoo.com |
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