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| Artist | Grateful Dead |
| Show | gd74-09-11.sbd.unknown.4647.sbeok.shnf - By Request |
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| Description | Grateful Dead
09/11/74
Alexandra Palace, London, England
This is the third version to emerge recently.
First was the big jam - Seastones>Eyes>Wharf Rat, + A&A - via David Gans
Second was an almost complete SB version
Third is this version. It is 95% based on version #2, but with audience patches in 3 places:
(A). To cover some mix problems in Scarlet Begonias
(B). To provide the first 15 minutes of Phil & Ned, whcih was missing from version #2
(C). To provide Sunshine Daydream and US Blues, also missing from version #2
A small number of minor flaws in version #2 were also repaired, although some remain.
Mostly what you are hearing is UNCHANGED from version #2.
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Disc #1
FIRST SET
1.Scarlet 10.56 (with aud patch to cover mix problems)
2.Mexicali 3.45
3.B E Women 5.11
4.BIODTL 3.27
5.Sugaree 7.53
6.Jack Straw 5.15
7.Row Jimmy 9.06
8.Bobby McGee 6.27
9.Tennessee Jed 7.55
10.Big River 4.51
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Total Time: 64:46
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Disc #2
1.Roses 5.51
2.Playing 23.24
SECOND SET
3.Phil & Ned-> 11.39 (From second gen audience)
4.Seastones-> 30.41 (First 3.40 from second gen audience, then cross-fade to remainder from Version #2)
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Total Time: 71.34
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Disc Three
1.Eyes-> 18.03
2.Stronger Than Dirt 3:17
3.Space 8:41
4.Wharf Rat 13.10
THIRD SET
5.Around 5.53
6.Ship of Fools 6.42
7.GDTRFB-> 8.04
8.Sugar Magnolia 8.11 (end patched from second gen audience)
Encore
9.US Blues 7.05 (from second gen audience)
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Total Time: 79.06
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The lineage for version #2 follows:
Source: SBD
Lineage: Reel master > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Extraction and .shn encoding by Seth Kaplan (Sdk022769@aol.com)
Slight retracking of discs 2 and 3 (CoolEdit/CDWav) and
re-shnning by G.S. Hamilton
Thanks Seth for this beautiful copy!
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And version #3 (this version) has:
Audience patches : aud>cass master>1st gen cass>2nd gen cass>CDR>EAC>patch
The master audience recording is apparantly lost and the 1st gen is "with a guy who doesn't trade anymore".
Mics on stands spaced approx 12 feet apart.
The following editing by Hanno in order to compile the new version:
the following defects of the SBD tape were fixed (H.B., 5/01):
- d1t1 Scarlet Begonias, uneven mix from minute 2 to 3 patched from AUD/2
- d2t1/2 corrected track ID between Roses and Playing, fixed hiccup at the start of Playing
- Seastones 0:00 - 15:20 patched from AUD/2
- Sunshine Daydream - end of show patched from AUD/2
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The following editing by Alasdair in order to clean up/retrack the new version:
- Hanno pointed out that there are between-track flaws in the big jam in version #2. In a wave editor you could see the tiny fade-in (of approximately 1/10th of a second) at the start of Eyes and Wharf Rat. These are noticeable and irritating flaws. Version #1 seems to be a different mix (mostly with regard to the stereo imaging, which is narrower in version #1. Version #2 also sounds a little cleaner, so I have repaired as best I can the fade-in flaws on Eyes and Wharf Rat, with approximately 1/10th second patch from version #1. There was also a tiny glitch 1250 samples into the jam following Eyes (timing from version #2), which was repaired similarly.
d1t06 (Jack Straw): click @ 4:24
d1t09 (Tenn Jed) : retracked
d1t10 (Big River : retracked
d2t02 (PITB): glitch @ 0:01
d2t03 (Phil & Ned): digi-clicks @ 0:48, 0:48, 0:54, 1:20, 1:51 (slight crackle remains), 4:01, 7:20, crackles @ 2:51, 3:14, 4:17, (the thud which remains was also probably part of the analogue crackling here), 6:41 (as 4:17), 15:15, 11:30, 13:52, 15:03, 15:15. These timings run into d2t04, whcih I later tracked separately.
d3t01 (Eyes) : Fade-in at very start was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t03 (Space) : Glitch at 1250 samples in (on version #2) was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t04 (Wharf Rat) : Fade-in at very start was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t05 (A&A) clicks @ 0:12 reduced, repeated section @ 4:45 removed, some silence added at start
d3t09 (USB) crackles @ 1:24, 5:19, click @ 5:18, 5:18, 5:21, 5:22
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Taking Phil & Ned>Seastones as a whole, Billy comes in at 11:39 and Guitarists from 11:55 (??) Then first Eyes hints come in at 34:35, 39:05. I split the track into 2 ("Phil & Ned" and "Seastones") mostly because I find CD tracks of this length quite unmanageable; sometimes I want to move around the track quicker. I also retracked Eyes>jam>Wharf Rat to include Stronger Than Dirt as a separate track, for the same reason.
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Someone somewhere may be interested in which tracks are changed from the 4-CD version, and which are unaltered:
version #3 d1t01 is new (Scarlet)
version #3 d1t02 is identical to version #2 d1t02
version #3 d1t03 is identical to version #2 d1t03
version #3 d1t04 is identical to version #2 d1t04
version #3 d1t05 is identical to version #2 d1t05
version #3 d1t06 is repaired from version #2 d1t06
version #3 d1t07 is identical to version #2 d1t07
version #3 d1t08 is identical to version #2 d1t08
version #3 d1t09 is retracked from version #2 d1t09
version #3 d1t10 is retracked from version #2 d2t01 (Big River)
version #3 d2t01 is retracked from version #3 d201 + d2t02 (Roses)
version #3 d2t02 is repaired and retracked from version #3 d2t02 + d2t03 (PITB)
version #3 d2t03 is new (Phil & Ned)
version #3 d2t04 is new (but mostly based on version #3 d3t01) (Seastones)
version #3 d3t01 is repaired from version #3 d3t02 (Eyes)
version #3 d3t02 is repaired from version #3 d3t02 (Stronger Than Dirt)
version #3 d3t03 is repaired from version #3 d3t03 (Space)
version #3 d3t04 is repaired from version #3 d3t04 (Wharf Rat)
version #3 d3t05 is repaired from version #3 d4t01 (A&A)
version #3 d3t06 is renamed from version #3 d4t02 (Ship)
version #3 d3t07 is renamed from version #3 d4t03 (GDTRFB)
version #3 d3t08 is new (Sug Mag/SSDD)
version #3 d3t09 is new (US Blues)
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Remaining flaws:
d1t02 (Mexicali): crackle @ 2:42
d1t03 (BEW): quiet crackle @ 3:52
d1t10 (Big River): crackle @ 3:01
d2t03 (Phil & Ned): crackle @ 5:40 (quiet), 9:08 (this is similar to those removed @ 4:17 & 6:41, and is perhaps from analogue recording or playback circuitry. If I though it was from the PA I would have left it alone). Also 10:18 (very quiet, Left channel), 10:24 & 10:25 (quiet, Right channel), 10:28, 10:31, 11:30 (sounds like a scratched record, but less noise than the original), 12:52 (quiet), 13:52 (also partially reduced from original), 15:03 (Left channel, partly reduced)
d2t03 (Phil & Ned): distortion (overload) @ 3:40, 6:13, several instances 7:20-7:50, 9:00-9:45, 11:40-12:18, 15:17
(All noted Phil & Ned flaws are in the audience portion, there are some glitches (eq at 22:01) in the SB portion, but it is in the nature of Seastones that glitches may not in fact be glitches, and I chose to leave the SB portion alone. There are no majorly disturbing glitches in this part anyway LOL).
d3t01 (Eyes): click @ 0:18, Jerry's guitar distorts @ 4:08, possible glitch @7:19??, clicks @ 9:15, 9:16, 15:39, possible splice @ 16:25??, click @21:43
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alimac@netcomuk.co.uk 31st May 2001
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| toomanycds |
2009-08-14 08:06:40 |
| Very intriguing 3rd set/disc 3. As an update to "Can You Pass the Acid Test" a '74 reprise of adventerous listening and living might be this Phil and Ned set for 30 minutes with a loved one or friend accompanying you. Shew, a true challenge indeed; rewarding to those with more refined ears than mine. Thanks for the torrent. |
| mcgannahan531 |
2009-08-14 14:07:13 |
| one of the better shows from this tour. thanks for this. |
| lovehaight |
2009-08-14 19:54:29 |
| excuse me, but every show from this Europe tour is fucking brilliant! |
| lovehaight |
2009-08-14 19:54:37 |
| excuse me, but every show from this Europe tour is fucking brilliant! |
| mcgannahan531 |
2009-08-15 14:26:44 |
| 9/14 is not fucking brilliant. very vanilla for the era. |
| Reelboy |
2009-08-16 09:52:38 |
| Thank you very much! |
| jimf1979 |
2009-09-06 02:06:51 |
| yeah I gotta agree, a lot of Europe 74 kinda falls flat on me. But THIS show? Definitely MUST HAVE material, for the Eyes Jam with Lagin. They don't get to the first verse till what, like 8 minutes in? I've never heard this source, and honestly I have so many sources of this I don't even know if I'll download it, but regardless of what source you have, ya GOTTA have at least ONE! |
| crazyuky |
2009-09-24 21:20:59 |
| Thank You!!!! |
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