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| hseamons |
2011-01-23 16:43:20 |
| Shoot, I meant replace "Sean Cribbs" with "Andy Lemieux" in above email... |
| katzman72 |
2011-01-23 23:15:54 |
| I'm getting an error message from utorrent, when I start the download, saying the file is corrupt or unreadable. anybody else? only this torrent, I can download everything else. |
| Jelly66 |
2011-01-24 05:48:33 |
| I've downloaded OK, but I'm getting checksum failures for d1t08 and d3t06 - attempting to decode them says those files are truncated or otherwise corrupt. |
| Albix |
2011-01-24 11:01:19 |
All files decoded successfully and the .md5 and .ffp files check out on my end.
Thanks! |
| slimpickinsdead |
2011-01-24 11:17:05 |
| I really wish there was a good, clean pure sbd transfer around. The CDs that Andy sent me to work with already had audience patches and I simply used Jerry Moore's aud to re-do them. The pre-Ship jam is one of my favorite pieces of Dead music and every time I put it on the crossfade from the aud bugs me a little bit. |
| Trainsrus |
2011-01-24 13:59:27 |
Thanks a lot, essential listening. Jerry Moore's AUD managed beautifully to capture the Wall-sound.
Thanks for another gem, Hunter! Very much appreciated. |
| deadtrail |
2011-01-24 14:26:42 |
Great sound on this! Nice work, Hunter.
Thanks for all the time you put into these.
That "Ship of Fools" intro is sublime defined. |
| rocinante |
2011-01-24 16:28:58 |
thanks a ton !!!
peace and jerry on!!! |
| E_A_Deadhead |
2011-01-24 19:20:37 |
I gotta start editing... anyway, RE: "subtle fluctuations in volume levels and in the sync can move where the guitar sound is happening slightly, but the sync is still crispy sounding, and there is no phasing sounds from doing this, or a "conflicting" sound. Having the AUD guitar sound in the right channel actually enhances the guitar sound in the left channel, in my view, in terms of how the brain processes the sound - it has a more enveloping, organic feel. But my brain is messed up, so I'm not sure if folk are going to hear the same thing. ""
I noticed that while listening to it, IT IS VERY COOL! and I like hearing the sound "travel" from, say the left to the right, kinda like a spaceship flying by, HEY! There's one now! Sorry, gotta catch this one, I'm due in Neptune at 5, hasta!
...and I gotta make sure I have the Chapelle version. |
| katzman72 |
2011-01-24 19:22:32 |
got it now, and boy "setting sail" is exactly the way I would describe that jam before Ship of FOols.
thanks for all these great trix |
| liverich |
2011-01-24 20:51:25 |
| I have a great board on 3 Cdrs. Let It Rock and and a great Wall of Sound Dark Star. No Seastones. Awesome quality and I've had it for years. Checking this out to compare. Thanks for putting it up. |
| hseamons |
2011-01-24 20:53:20 |
| There are 2 kinds of "traveling" sound that can occur in matrixes: one kind is from heavy oscillation between the 2 sources, or unsyncliness, which I avoid most of the time and have got much better at avoiding; the other happens more specifically in this '74 case when there is more separation between left and right channel sounds, as described in the above "email" paragraphs. The left and right sounds "resonate" each other in both channels - and not in a constantly uniform sonic manner - like Garcia's voice coming out of the left in the SBD, yet resonating in the right with the AUD sound. This is more of a "resonance" feel that is more true to a live sound than a "studio sound" where the sound separation is more discrete. This is why matrixes have more of that "thick air" live sound that I think folk are digging. This "resonating" sonic quality, in terms of left-right channel separation that I am talking about here, though, is distinctive of some of the '76 matrixes I've worked on too, for instance, but much less in latter 70's and 80's matrixes I've worked on - the sonic resonance is more uniform for some reason. All this being said, there is a certain sonic "delicacy-yet-fullness" here with this '74 mix that makes it all the more interesting to listen to. Garcia's guitar, for example, fills the room in a way that seems to be in keeping with the Wall of Sound idea - the actual placement of the sound can change based on the manner in which the instruments are being adjusted on stage by the performers and how that sound is heard bouncing around the room....oh man, what a cliche........and how the air temperatures themselves can even affect that. This is why the matrixes have that pleasing, organic and enveloping feel. |
| E_A_Deadhead |
2011-01-24 21:05:58 |
When I mentioned "six-pack", I was referring to a 2 concert, 6 disc compilation (an official release, hopefully someday, or a box of Summer '74! Even better...) of these two shows 6/22-23. A classic era for the band, absolutely peakin' on many levels in this era (that's pretty undeniable, from even the most jaded of Dead heads...). Sure '69 has some trippy, psychedelic stuff, but this is, as others have mentioned, simply superbly supremely sublime!
Thanks, Hunter!
Hunter, I'd like to hear what you thought of the SBD you used, sui generis (before matrix). Am I to understand there is not a pristine crisp Betty (or the like) of these shows? Vocals on ROR sound a little rough on the Chapelle, I'm wondering if that is symptomatic of the entire show, or just the in house mix at the beginning of the show. No one knows if there is a pristine board in the vault?
Thanks! |
| E_A_Deadhead |
2011-01-24 21:11:42 |
RE: "how that sound is heard bouncing around the room....oh man, what a cliche........and how the air temperatures themselves can even affect that. This is why the matrixes have that pleasing, organic and enveloping feel."
Doesn't matter if it's a cliche, as long as it's true! Let the nitpickers be what they are, but the straight facts are good enough for me!
Yes, I think you're on too something, and truthfully, on firs tlisten, I thought perhaps the mxi was a little low oeverall, but I am thinking you were trying to avoid clipping and over compression and trying to get the largest sound dynamic possible, that's good! If I had a $10,000 stereo (Hey, Bob, Miracle me your old sound system, OK? I work cheap!), I could adjust the funk into it and get a killer, clean, live sound! Clipping GD music NOT a good thing!
btw: Can't wait to hear the Plangent Process on the E '72, assuming I can beg, borrow, and... enough bucks to get it ordered!!! |
| hseamons |
2011-01-24 21:46:37 |
| I thought the SBD was top-notch, IMO, and it did not have the previous matrixing done on the ROR, as with the Belkin SBD. Maybe the earlier issue regarding the SBD had more to do with having a complete, uncut source than with sonic quality. |
| deadbass36 |
2011-01-25 04:40:45 |
| Thanks to all involved for all the hard work--Tom |
| hseamons |
2011-01-25 16:03:50 |
| Upon further thought, however, the other '74 shows I've worked on before and after the Miami shows do not have the same "amorphous atmosphere" quality, and they exhibit a more uniform sonic plane, so I guess I'm not so sure about anything I've said regarding the issue. |
| Cranesq |
2011-01-26 14:00:54 |
| Whatever was done, I'm a big fan. This sounds fantastic! Thanks to everyone involved. |
| Run66 |
2011-01-28 20:05:03 |
| many thanks ! |
| adam_s |
2011-01-28 21:58:28 |
| Outstanding sound and performance. Thanks Hunter! |
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