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DescriptionPhish
1997-11-22
Hampton Coliseum - Hampton, VA

Source: AKG 460B + Ck61 > DA-P1 > D8
Transfer: DAT (c1) @48k > Sony PCM-R500 > Tascam SS-R1 > CF > USB > PC >
Wavelab v6.10 (fades, minor edits, 48k > 44.1k) > CD Wave v1.98>
TLH (Flac lvl 8) > Foobar2k Live Show Tagger

DAT(c1) provided by Jonas Blank
Transferred by Jeff Mitchell (jeffhmitchell@gmail.com)

Set 1:
s1t01 - Mike's Song* >
s1t02 - I Am Hydrogen >
s1t03 - Weekapaug Groove
s1t04 - Harry Hood
s1t05 - Train Song
s1t06 - Billy Breathes
s1t07 - Frankenstein
s1t08 - Isabella

Set 2:
s2t01 - Halley's Comet >
s2t02 - Tweezer* >
s2t03 - Black-Eyed Katy >
s2t04 - Piper >
s2t05 - Run Like An Antelope

Encore:
s2t06 - Bouncing Around The Room
s2t07 - Tweezer Reprise

*Black-Eyed Katy teases
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TypePhish
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jmitchell 2013-02-05 16:58:54
Phish Lossless Audio Sources
http://tinyurl.com/8gc3xdy
twatts 2013-02-05 17:05:24
Nice... Thanks!

Terry
funk_lin 2013-02-05 18:16:32
Boring show
metawhy 2013-02-05 18:48:38
it will be interesting to hear a straight microphone > DAT tape.

Some of the best pulls don't have a preamp.

Can you run all microphones without a preamp? Sometimes I feel like the preamp adds an artificiality to the sound.


Thanks Jeff!!
bathtubtim1 2013-02-05 20:24:19
thank you, jeff!
chk 2013-02-05 21:11:25
Great show, thanks for sharing. to answer metawhy, most (all?) mics need a preamp to boost the low level output of the mic to a level for the DAT or whatever media is recording. so if you're setting levels, as you are on a DAP1 or a D7 or whatever the DAT deck of the day was, you're using the deck's built-in preamp. external preamps generally do a better job at boosting the signal (lower noise, less distortion, etc). but yes, at a loud concert you can usually get a good tape w/o a preamp. i ran nak's directly into a D7 for years, and got some great tapes. it's during recordings with quiet sources that having a good preamp makes the biggest difference...but a good external pre-amp probably can't ever hurt....i coudn't get my NAK rig in this night, got there a bit too late...so patched and enjoyed what may be my all-time fave attended phish show from up close on fish's side! gotta get my old NAK masters from the previous night, year, and following years up on here at some point. they don't circulate. cheers
funk_lin 2013-02-05 21:30:01
Meta - to clarify (maybe correct - though others have much more knowledge):

Mics that have their own phantom/power source can be run straight into a DAT such as a D7 which does not have phantom power. A DAP1 had a pre-amp that could run phantom power to mics. Though I'm not doing research right now I recall the B18 being an external source.

Most higher end rigs ran external devices for each piece of the chain:

Mics > ext. pre-amp (i.e. sonosax, v2, Oade) > ext. a/d converter (i.e. ad1000, ad2k, sbm1) > recording device (i.e. dat deck).

rustystrings 2013-02-05 22:15:52
Pre-amps are necessary for any mic other than Dynamic Mics, ie SM57s, Senn441s. They provide phantom power at the proper voltage the mic requires. The sound the listener hears isn't characterized by whether the taper used a pre-amp.
metawhy 2013-02-05 22:23:43
thanks for the info guys. Having never taped myself, I guess I was pretty ignorant on the matter.

Anyway, this is a great pull. THANKS!!
jasonsobel 2013-02-06 05:34:00
I just added this to the etree database:
http://db.etree.org/shn/123710

thanks!
LAStubbe 2013-02-06 06:54:43
Acidjack killing it! Thanks Jeff for all the fresh transfers.

I have always felt like the pre amp adds some flavor specific to the pre amp. Mics > deck get it done just fine, but in my experience adding a nice pre is like throwing some cream cheese on a bagel.

Meta, as said here, the dap1 was able to provide power to the mics so a preamp was not needed for power in this situation, but as you've seen over the years, many tapers have used a pre amp with the dap1 for that extra flavor.
metawhy 2013-02-06 09:50:45
CHK - circulate those NAK masters - I bet they sound great!
spaced 2013-02-06 11:18:51
Goddamn it, you people are going to make me buy another hard drive. I can't keep up with all these great new sources! Seriously though, keep up the good work.
jasonsobel 2013-02-06 11:56:01
Just thought I'd chime in regarding the external pre-amp vs no external pre-amp. Even when no external pre-amp is used, ALL recordings made with condenser microphones NEED to use a pre-amp to boost the signal, because the signal coming directly out of the mics is far too quiet to get a good recording. So it's not a question of whether or not to use a pre-amp, but it's a question of whether to use an external pre-amp vs the one built into the recording deck. But in both cases, the signal is going through a pre-amp. In most cases, external pre-amps are higher quality, which is why many tapers use external pre-amps.
chk 2013-02-06 22:53:00
metawhy (or anyone else) - regarding my old masters, if you or anyone else is interested in transferring them, i simply don't have the time and would be happy to send them out to be transferred...please let me know best way to get in touch to make this happen. would love to get that stuff out there. i also "co-ran" a schoeps tubes/ad1k rig for a while and have some skb stage tapes (among others) that really haven't seen the light of day. would love to get this stuff into the community.
Crush87 2013-02-06 22:57:09
Thanks. Way better than the boomy 89665 source IMO
twatts 2013-02-07 01:24:20
chk: - "regarding my old masters, if you or anyone else is interested in transferring them, i simply don't have the time and would be happy to send them out to be transferred..."

Contact me at twatts1000@gmail.com

I'll be happy to get your stuff Transferred... There are a cadre of Phans quite willing and able to help out...

Terry

kindmeow 2014-06-15 20:49:15
Many thanks for sharing

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